In this conversation, Michael and Bex talk about what it actually means to teach this medicine, flipped learning, backwards design, why safety and fun belong in every anatomy syllabus, and why the institutional status quo is often standing in the way of best educational practices. They also get into the financial realities of running a small business as a bodyworker, including debt, retirement, SEP IRAs, raising your rates every year, and what it means to be scared about your future in a profession that never teaches you to plan for it.